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  • vdichev

    I hope the ESME core team is not demotivated by disappointing feedback from Las Vegas. The DemoJam is not the primary goal, and the mood of the moment might not be a good advisor.

    vdichev: 2008/09/22 conversation

    • yojibee

      @vdichev : Not at all! At least not from my side..it just made me want to go to Berlin to show them just how wrong they were

      yojibee: 2008/09/22 conversation

      • vdichev

        I'm really happy to hear that, that's an attitude I like :) Was getting a bit worried about the mail discussion.

        vdichev: 2008/09/22 conversation

        • mrinal

          @vdichev : we had a good positive scrum call today

          mrinal: 2008/09/22 conversation

          • vdichev

            Nice to know you figured it out in the scrum! Besides, temporary difficulties can be just as motivating as successes, I see.

            vdichev: 2008/09/22 conversation

            • yojibee

              @vdichev : I think how this team works, is anyway not like any other "normal" team I have worked with so far LOL

              yojibee: 2008/09/22 conversation

              • vdichev

                As an outsider lurking in the discussions, I'm also impressed by the motivation of the team. You know you don't see that often.

                vdichev: 2008/09/22 conversation

        • yojibee

          @vdichev : We had a good call this evening, were we realized that we are on the same track

          yojibee: 2008/09/22 conversation

          • vdichev

            btw I suck bad at UI, you shouldn't trust me if I give advice about UI :) I mean, if it depended on me, ESME would only have a console-based interface ;-)

            vdichev: 2008/09/22 conversation

            • yojibee

              @vdichev : ROFL A console-base UI would really raise some eyebrows

              yojibee: 2008/09/22 conversation

            • mrinal

              @vdichev : well console based UI is not that bad actually .. some of the best UIs IMO .. eg: Google.com and Mozilla Ubiquity are essentially command lines

              mrinal: 2008/09/22 conversation

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              • vdichev

                No, I actually like the current Web UI a lot. I mean just look at this real-time conversation, I forget I'm in a browser!

                vdichev: 2008/09/22 conversation

              • vdichev

                @mrinal Sure, lots of examples. Quicksilver and even Twitter- remember the IM commands. Forgot there was IM in Twitter, right? :)

                vdichev: 2008/09/22 conversation

                • mrinal

                  thinking about command lines

                  mrinal: 2008/09/22 conversation

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                  • mrinal

                    the ultimate command line would be voice based

                    mrinal: 2008/09/22 conversation

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                    • vdichev

                      @mrinal Not sure I agree about voice. You need AI to resolve ambiguities. I'm still having misunderstandings talking with my wife, how could software understand me better? :)

                      vdichev: 2008/09/22 conversation

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                      • mrinal

                        @vdichev : well freeform is not available even in text based command lines and that carries over to voice ..

                        mrinal: 2008/09/22 conversation

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                      • mrinal

                        @vdichev : although communication and ambiguity will aways be together .. no matter how natural interfaces get .. human-human interfaces are ambiguous even after thousands on years

                        mrinal: 2008/09/22 conversation

                        Ai

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                  • vdichev

                    This goes down deeper- expressiveness of language vs. gestures/pictures.

                    vdichev: 2008/09/22 conversation

                  • vdichev

                    Thinking there are too many developers who believe they can only program using drag & drop. Imagine a person who can't speak (not even using sign language)...

                    vdichev: 2008/09/22 conversation

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